STILL LOOSING WINGS - another killed

[nong]

Just want to draw your attentions to the reality that another 601XL folded up on November the 6th, killing the sole occupant during a cross country flight during which visual met. conditions prevailed. NTSB Ident. CEN10FA042.

ON BEHALF OF PASSENGERS
In light of the ongoing carnage.....
Please be fair by not flying with passengers. You know it would be wrong..............

[Qwerty]

Just want to draw your attentions to the reality that another 601XL folded up on November the 6th, killing the sole occupant during a cross country flight during which visual met. conditions prevailed. NTSB Ident. CEN10FA042.

ON BEHALF OF PASSENGERS
In light of the ongoing carnage.....
Please be fair by not flying with passengers. You know it would be wrong..............

nong, may I ask that we, involved in aviation, stick to cause-effect, logic and due process and not be tempted to follow the short sighted, alarmist, attention grabbing, non considered approach of the mass media. I am not making this accusation of your post but a more measured approach might be more appropriate.

May I amend your plea??

601XL owners
In light of the ongoing problems with your aircraft type,
please ensure that you comply with all of the manufacturers ADs.

It is sad to hear of another fatality in aviation.

[Captain]

nong, may I ask that we, involved in aviation, stick to cause-effect, logic and due process and not be tempted to follow the short sighted, alarmist, attention grabbing, non considered approach of the mass media. I am not making this accusation of your post but a more measured approach might be more appropriate.

May I amend your plea??

601XL owners
In light of the ongoing problems with your aircraft type,
please ensure that you comply with all of the manufacturers ADs.

It is sad to hear of another fatality in aviation.

I don't see anything wrong with Nong's post, and it certainly isn't based on a reaction to the "mass media". It is a fair request, I reckon, based on the NTSB report and other data on several recent accidents.

To use a Qwerty-ism "we who are involved in aviation" (or those with the experience that the Nong has) need to speak plainly when they can see an issue, particulalry safety & multiple fatality related.

[Qwerty]

Look you guys, why go troppo over the Zenair. If you want to use terms like carnage, or plea for restraint of some kind turn your attention to alcohol and the road, now that my friends is carnage and that is where restraint is required.

I object to hysteria, particularly when its aimed at aviation. When its aimed at aviation by pilots we have a recipie for CASA to introduce more gems like the ASIC. Or worse, how about an industry wide buerocratic clampdown on everything complete with a new set of regs for us to comply with. If we keep the hysteria up thats what we will all wear. Am I the only person that can see this direct link?? Hysteria will get a knee jerk reaction, now we are looking at back scatter x-ray that sees through you clothes and its comming due to hysteria.

[Captain]

Look you guys, why go troppo over the Zenair. If you want to use terms like carnage, or plea for restraint of some kind turn your attention to alcohol and the road, now that my friends is carnage and that is where restraint is required.

I object to hysteria, particularly when its aimed at aviation. When its aimed at aviation by pilots we have a recipie for CASA to introduce more gems like the ASIC. Or worse, how about an industry wide buerocratic clampdown on everything complete with a new set of regs for us to comply with. If we keep the hysteria up thats what we will all wear. Am I the only person that can see this direct link?? Hysteria will get a knee jerk reaction, now we are looking at back scatter x-ray that sees through you clothes and its comming due to hysteria.

Have searched all previous posts on this thread and can't find "carnage" or any "plea for restraint" and can't detect "hysteria" anywhere, except perhaps in your last para.

I reflect again, just what is wrong with the Nong's post? It is "drawing your attention" to a factual NTSB Report on a real recent fatal accident where an in-flight beak-up appears obvious ............. and "flutter" wasn't even mentioned.

[Qwerty]

Have searched all previous posts on this thread and can't find "carnage" or any "plea for restraint" and can't detect "hysteria" anywhere,.........

Re read post number 1. and then my post above.

[Captain]

Re read post number 1. and then my post above.

Oops. My search engine must be faulty. Can't be me ...................

But I still say that Post #1 was not over the top.

[Baphomet]

Have a look at this link, seems the FAA are very concerned, as I would be if I was building/flying one.

The Kathryn Report: Zodiac CH601XL and CH650 Wing Structural Modifications - Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin

Baph

[Ian]

[Qwerty]

But I still say that Post #1 was not over the top.

And I say it is. I have no problem with the intent or the sentiment of the post. It is the over the top language that I feel has the potential to unneccessarily damage aviation (Recreational aviation in particular) in an environment where the mass media seems hell bent sesnationalising everything anyway.